Monday 14 January 2013

Technocrats can be immensely inspiring – Meeting with Pedro Aspe



This is the second in a series of four blog posts from my recent study trip to Mexico, with the Stanford GSB. Here’re some facts and tid-bits on the trip which provide a bit of an overall flavor:

§  The people: 35 Stanford GSBers and their partners, hailing from 14 different countries –backgrounds as diverse and unique as Air Force Officers, Social Entrepreneurs, Finance Ministerial Analysts, Film Makers, Start-up Starters, Seismologists, Sports Analysts, Chemistry Teachers, Family Businessmen … and of course … bankers & consultants

§  The places: 3 different cities over 10 days, including Oaxaca, Monterrey and Mexico City – each with a very different and unique character

§  The experiences: Discussing Mexico’s challenges in meetings with business and public sector leaders; watching Mexican soap operas being filmed, including meeting the most charismatic man in the world (not to be confused with the most interesting man in the world, whom we also met); exploring ancient monuments; eating good food and drinking giant margaritas; and of course, shouting and cheering like mariachis.



Pedro Aspe is very “Professor-like” – clearly a technocrat. On the first slide of his presentation, he took great pains to explain and elaborate to us the two axes on his chart, which were otherwise clearly labeled and fairly self-explanatory. It seems that his typical audience might not be as used to this sort of material. But our group of 35 Stanford GSBers was both “getting-it” and mesmerized through-out his talk, as he went on to share very detailed and personal stories from his personal life and professional career – stories which explain some of his life’s work, and his passions, motivations, beliefs and values.

Trained as an Economist at MIT, Pedro Aspe went on to become Mexico’s Secretary of Finance. He has a long list of impressive accomplishments in public service, including “crisis-proofing” Mexico (all the good stuff, including renegotiating foreign debt, restructuring the Central Bank to make monetary policy independent, and pushing a controversial privatization plan) and architecting NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement). At 62, he is now in the private sector, leading a firm which I understand to be doing everything from managing its own principal investments, to providing financial and even non-financial advisory services.




Here's Pedro Aspe, with all his joy and intensity

Even though he has been associated with the PRI (The Institutional Revolutionary Party), the Left leaning party which has governed Mexico for much of Mexico’s modern history, his political views are clearly very centrist. Not only did he state this explicitly, but he also described how political dynamics in the United States have traditionally been very centrist, despite the presence of two different parties, and how the US is in a bit of trouble currently, having moved away from this in recent years, with the advent of movements like the Tea Party. I would say that this position is “the hallmark” of a successful technocrat – willing to associate for pragmatic political reasons, but ultimately understanding that all things will be rational and real, and certainly over and above petty ideologies. It’s easy to get political and feel like you might be “selling out” – Imran Khan from Pakistan, for example, wouldn’t associate with Musharraf, even though there is strong centrist and even populist potential there. Egos come in; personalities clash – ideologies kill the potential for pragmatism. There is so much humility and tangible benefit in being a centrist technocrat. 

Pedro Aspe demonstrates this humility in more than one way. When asked about his role models or leaders that he admires, Pedro Aspe cited the Finance Ministers of Chile, New Zealand and Singapore, as he went on to “sell-us” on the TPP (The Trans-Pacific Partnership), a next generation free-trade agreement which aims to address such complex and thorny issues as how to deal with intellectual property or duplicated regulatory approvals in free-trade regimes. Perhaps this was a very elegant way to sell the TPP to us, and answer the question – and we were all clearly sold and wowed. But what’s amazing about this answer is that he picked his peers – he did not cite any larger than life figures like Gandhi or Mandela. He picked individuals with whom he’s interacted on a personal basis. That’s very special, and goes on to show just how pragmatic and authentic an individual he truly is.

Finally, it was very clear that he took a stand on tough issues and spoke it like he saw it. Catapulting a highly protected economy into a free-trade era is not an easy task. At the time that he made this happen, the vast majority of Mexico opposed him. But today, 70% of Mexicans believe that NAFTA is beneficial for Mexico. It takes not only a man of strong intelligence and vision, but also of courage and character to push through on unpopular policies like NAFTA. When asked how he dealt with self-doubt, it was clear that he constantly questioned his own beliefs. And it was perhaps in the process of questioning his own beliefs that he gained the courage to go ahead and push them. As a “contrarian”, I find this to be particularly inspirational – the need to keep questioning is just so important.

We met many inspiring leaders on our Mexico trip, but for me, and also for most of my fellow participants, Pedro Aspe was far and ahead the most inspirational of them all. Life as a technocrat can be very hard – you have many potential good answers, but very few of the levers to create the political space to put those answers in place. It’s almost sort of a thankless job – if you do well, you only did what was obvious and right, and if you screw up you’re political toast. But leaders like Pedro Aspe reassure me that technocrats and public servants can find immense purpose and meaning while changing the world.

My next post in this series will deal with public perceptions of a country like Mexico … get ready for some criticism of the media, and us gullible consumers of the media.

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